St. John's Water Dog vs Mountain View Cur - Breed Comparison

St. John's Water Dog vs Mountain View Cur - Breed ComparisonMountain View Cur is originated from United States but St. John's Water Dog is originated from Canada. Mountain View Cur may grow 13 cm / 6 inches higher than St. John's Water Dog. Mountain View Cur may weigh 12 kg / 26 pounds lesser than St. John's Water Dog. Mountain View Cur may live 4 years more than St. John's Water Dog. Both Mountain View Cur and St. John's Water Dog has almost same litter size. Both Mountain View Cur and St. John's Water Dog requires Low Maintenance.

Basic Information

Group:
Working dog
Working dog
undefined
United States
Canada
Height Male:
46 - 66 cm
18 - 26 inches
48 - 53 cm
18 - 21 inches
Height Female:
44 - 64 cm
17 - 26 inches
47 - 52 cm
18 - 21 inches
Weight Male:
16 - 29 kg
35 - 64 pounds
25 - 41 kg
55 - 91 pounds
Weight Female:
14 - 26 kg
30 - 58 pounds
16 - 35 kg
35 - 78 pounds
Life Span:
12 - 16 Years
10 - 12 Years
Litter Size:
3 - 8
4 - 6
Size:
Large
Large
Other Names:
None
St. Johns Dog, Lesser Newfoundland, St. John’s Newfoundland
Colors Available:
yellow, brindle, black and brindle. These dogs commonly have white markings on the muzzle, solid black, chest and feet.
black
Coat:
short hair
short, thick coats
Shedding:
Moderate
Seasonal
Temperament:
Affectionate, Gentle, Independent, Intelligent, Loving, Loyal, Playful, Protective
Intelligent, Loving, Responsive
Grooming:
Low Maintenance
Low Maintenance
Trainability:
Easy
Moderate
Hypoallergenic:
No
No
Kids Friendly:
Yes
Yes
New Owners Friendly:
Yes
Yes

History

mountain view curThe Mountain View Cur is an American bred dog that resulted from years of deliberate breeding and careful culling of the litters to improve the Mountain Cur into a hunting dog with a better temperament and a stronger hunting instinct. Because of these generations of culling and refining the Mountain View Cur is so uniform within the breed that it is considered a thoroughbred as well as a purebred. Developed at the end of the 1980’s by Michael and Marie Bloodgood. The foundation for their breeding program was the Mountain Cur.

The new Mountain View Cur were meant to be stronger in every way than the original Mountain Cur. They could track, hunt and tree both large and small prey. It’s work ethic is unsurpassed regardless of the weather or terrain. Highly intelligent and motivated the Mount View Cur can use its incredible prey drive to follow the game at any cost. Yet it can be trusted off lease because while hunting the Mountain View Cur will instinctively go to the hunter and check in occasionally.

This breed is ultimate hunter, known for treeing squirrels and racoons. His strongest drive is to please the human he is with. He has a gentle, loving temperament. Because of their desire to please, they are great companion animals as well as hunters. In addition to coons and squirrels, the Mountain View Cur could hunt possum, coyote, pheasants, turkey, hare, grouse, hare and rabbits. They are also willing to fight with lions, bobcats, bears, and wild boars. Surprisingly they can herd as well.

They are a healthy breed and very hearty with a long lifespan. They are extremely popular in the mountains and hills of Appalachia, but they are rare and almost unknown outside the United States. Puppies are very expensive and there is a waiting list that could be very long. The original Mountain View Curs descended from just two Mountain Curs – one male, one female. As the program went on Mountain View Curs were bred to Mountain Views Curs and then other Mountain Curs were added in.

Originally the breed was registered as a part of the Kemmer Stock Breeders Association Registry. Eventually however the breeders of View Curs came to believe that they had an entirely new breed and the American Squirrel and Night Hunters Association was the choice to register the breed in 1995. One year later the Mountain View Cur Registry was founded.

st john s water dogThe breed known as the St. John’s water dog is an extinct landrace breed. They were domestic dogs found in Newfoundland and at times were called the lesser Newfoundland. There is not much information available about the other breeds that went into its development. Hypothetically it is believed they are a mix of the Irish, Old English and Portuguese dogs bred to work.

It is also thought that other breeds in their family tree, descending from them, include the Golden Retriever, the Flat-Coated Retriever, the Chesapeake Bay Retriever, the Labrador and the Curly-Coated Retriever. The Newfoundland is also related to the St. Johns Water Dog through the line of Rafeirio do Alenteios that Portuguese fisherman brought to the island.

The breed was exported to England in the 19th century and early 20th. There the breeds of retrievers were developed. In Canada during this time frame restrictions were placed on dog ownership in order to encourage people to raise sheep. At the same time England imposed a long quarantine on all animals coming into the country in order to get rid of rabies. These two factors contributed greatly to the extinction of the breed. It seems the last two dogs were seen in a remote area in the 1980’s. All attempts to save the breed failed.

Description

mountain view cur puppy - descriptionThe Mountain View Cur is a rugged, healthy breed that has very little in common with its ancestor the Mountain Cur at least in its looks. The Mountain View Cur is born with no dewclaws while the Mountain Cur has them. The Mountain View Cur is a stronger and more muscular breed as well. They have a flat domed head with ears that are high set and short. Her eyes are dark and prominent, its neck and back strong and muscular, while its chest is deep. Half the pups are born with a bobtail and half have their tales docked. About 10% are black, brindle or brindle and black. They all have white on the feet, chest and muzzle.

st john s water dog puppy - descriptionSt. John’s Water Dog is strong, medium sized and stocky. They looked more like English Labs than American Labs. They had a thick, short coat, loved swimming, had a lot of endurance and rudder tail. It was also described as a thin, black dog with short hair. They had white patches on their chest and feet. His nose was thin and tapered, his legs powerful, his chest muscular. The breed is quick, swims, runs quickly and is a fighter as well.

Never accepted by any major kennel club except as a foundation breed. They became extinct.

Characteristics

Children friendliness

mountain view cur dog - characteristicsVery child friendly, playful and gentle

Special talents

Scent and well-disciplined self-control

Adaptability

This breed is designed to work and to hunt. They are happiest when they have a job or are in the woods with you. They have excess energy and need space. They will not do well as a 24 hour inside dogs. They need space to run and hunt.

Learning ability

Highly intelligent, excellent ability to learn whatever you want to teach them.

Characteristics

1.Children friendliness - yes they are good with children.

2.Special talents swimming is their best talent

st john s water dog dog - characteristics3.Adaptability large need fence, they are not large dogs but they need outdoor space

4.Learning ability – very smart and eager to learn

Health Problems

mountain view cur puppies - health problemsThe Mountain View Cur is a very healthy breed without a lot of genetic issues due to the purity and isolation of the breed. No genetic deformities or illness. They are susceptible to a few health concerns.

Bloat – like most larger dogs, the Mountain View Cur is susceptible to bloat. This occurs when the dog’s internal organs, stomach and intestines become inverted and twisted. This can occur when the dog eats a large meal immediately before or after strenuous exercise.

  • Ear Infections – Ears need to be kept clean especially after every hunt.
  • Eye Infections/Issues – Similar to ear infections
  • Hunting Accidents – by far the biggest danger to the breed is accidents

st john s water dog puppies - health problemsThere is no documented history of any genetic or hereditary illnesses in the breed. However, it seems rational to believe they suffered from ailments similar to Labradors and newfoundland though they are smaller dogs.

No history like Labs and Newfoundlands .

  • Hip and elbow dysplasia – can cause lameness and arthritis.
  • PRA – progressive retinal atrophy – can cause blindness.
  • Cancer – in their later years.
  • Infectious diseases – not as serious as prior to vaccinations.
  • Myopathy hereditary – affects the muscles.
  • Ear infections.

-

Caring The Pet

Feeding the puppy

mountain view cur dogs - caringThe Mountain View Cur puppy after 12 weeks of age will need to eat 3 meals per day until they are 6 months old. From 6 months to one year they need 2 meals a day. They need high quality dry dog food made especially for puppies that will become large dogs.

Feeding the adult

An adult Mountain View Cur can eat only once a day and be healthy. They need a high quality dry food for large dogs.

Points for Good Health

Extremely healthy breed with stamina and speed.

Games and Exercises

The Mountain View Cur is a hunter and an extremely active one at that. They also have herding tendencies. Though they are not hyper, they need a lot of exercise. They also need a job. They want nothing more than to please their person, but they need a job to stimulate both his body and mind. He needs daily walks and a fenced yard to run in. They are good at agility, search and rescue, herding, field trials, police work, and hunting.

st john s water dog dogs - caring1Feeding the puppy – Don’t overfeed – they have a propensity toward obesity. Feed high quality, high protein 3 x a day.

2.Feeding the adult – Don’t overfeed. Feed a high quality, high protein 1-2 x a day.

3.Points for Good Health - stamina

4. Games and Exercises – They need space to run and they love to explore. They would also love to be near water where they could swim. Good at dock diving, field trials, flyball and frisbee.

Comparison with other breeds

  1. Mountain View Cur vs English Bulldog - Breed Comparison
  2. Mountain View Cur vs German Shepherd - Breed Comparison
  3. Mountain View Cur vs Golden Retriever - Breed Comparison
  4. Mountain View Cur vs Labrador Retriever - Breed Comparison
  5. Mountain View Cur vs West Highland White Terrier - Breed Comparison
  6. Mountain View Cur vs French Bulldog - Breed Comparison
  7. Mountain View Cur vs Beagle - Breed Comparison
  8. Mountain View Cur vs Yorkshire Terrier - Breed Comparison
  9. Mountain View Cur vs Poodle - Breed Comparison
  10. Mountain View Cur vs Rottweiler - Breed Comparison
  11. Mountain View Cur vs Boxer - Breed Comparison
  12. Mountain View Cur vs English Pointer - Breed Comparison
  13. Mountain View Cur vs Siberian Husky - Breed Comparison
  14. Mountain View Cur vs Doberman Pinscher - Breed Comparison
  15. Mountain View Cur vs American Bully - Breed Comparison
  16. Mountain View Cur vs Abruzzenhund - Breed Comparison
  17. Mountain View Cur vs Affenpinscher - Breed Comparison
  18. Mountain View Cur vs Afghan Hound - Breed Comparison
  19. Mountain View Cur vs Aidi - Breed Comparison
  20. Mountain View Cur vs Airedale Terrier - Breed Comparison
  21. Mountain View Cur vs Akbash Dog - Breed Comparison
  22. Mountain View Cur vs Akita - Breed Comparison
  23. Mountain View Cur vs Africanis - Breed Comparison
  24. Mountain View Cur vs Askal - Breed Comparison
  25. Mountain View Cur vs Atlas Terrier - Breed Comparison
  26. St. John's Water Dog vs English Bulldog - Breed Comparison
  27. St. John's Water Dog vs German Shepherd - Breed Comparison
  28. St. John's Water Dog vs Golden Retriever - Breed Comparison
  29. St. John's Water Dog vs Labrador Retriever - Breed Comparison
  30. St. John's Water Dog vs West Highland White Terrier - Breed Comparison
  31. St. John's Water Dog vs French Bulldog - Breed Comparison
  32. St. John's Water Dog vs Beagle - Breed Comparison
  33. St. John's Water Dog vs Yorkshire Terrier - Breed Comparison
  34. St. John's Water Dog vs Poodle - Breed Comparison
  35. St. John's Water Dog vs Rottweiler - Breed Comparison
  36. St. John's Water Dog vs Boxer - Breed Comparison
  37. St. John's Water Dog vs English Pointer - Breed Comparison
  38. St. John's Water Dog vs Siberian Husky - Breed Comparison
  39. St. John's Water Dog vs Doberman Pinscher - Breed Comparison
  40. St. John's Water Dog vs American Bully - Breed Comparison
  41. St. John's Water Dog vs Abruzzenhund - Breed Comparison
  42. St. John's Water Dog vs Affenpinscher - Breed Comparison
  43. St. John's Water Dog vs Afghan Hound - Breed Comparison
  44. St. John's Water Dog vs Aidi - Breed Comparison
  45. St. John's Water Dog vs Airedale Terrier - Breed Comparison
  46. St. John's Water Dog vs Akbash Dog - Breed Comparison
  47. St. John's Water Dog vs Akita - Breed Comparison
  48. St. John's Water Dog vs Africanis - Breed Comparison
  49. St. John's Water Dog vs Askal - Breed Comparison
  50. St. John's Water Dog vs Atlas Terrier - Breed Comparison